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FreedomFire Administrator

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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 02:02 am |
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When you've been involved in network marketing for as long as I have you think you've "seen it all".
But lately I've become more and more concerned with some of the misinformation, misleading claims and downright LIES that are being told in our industry. (Often by people who should know better...)
Prospects and distributors are being promised everything under the sun to get them to join and build the business. They are told that success will be easy and anyone can do it.
The problem is...
Once these people join and discover that it DOES take a bit of work and skill to build a successful business, most of them feel like they have been lied to and realize that they are not going to just get "something for nothing".
This leaves a bad taste in their mouth about the entire industry and makes the job more difficult for all of us.
This is why I was so excited when I read a brand new report from my friend and well-known MLMer Ann Sieg titled, "The 7 Great Lies of Network Marketing".
After reading this hard hitting 35 page report, I can guarantee you one thing...
This thing is going to shake up the entire industry! It's even going to make some people angry. Very angry!
Some (those TELLING these lies) will be angry because she is exposing them for what they really are.
Others (those who have been lied to) will be angry when they discover the REAL truth that their uplines have been hiding from them all along.
This is the most honest and insightful report on our industry I've ever read.
And the best part is Ann is giving this report away at no cost. Personally, I think she should be charging for this information... It's just too powerful.
But, because I feel that I owe it to you as our valued readers to protect you from the lies being told every day in this business, I want you to go right now to the website below and grab your copy of "The 7 Great Lies of Network Marketing".
The 7 Great Lies Of Network Marketing
After you read it I think you'll agree that the entire world of network marketing is about to change....
You may want to download and read this no-cost report simply to find out if YOU have been telling some of these lies without even knowing it. The answer may shock you!
Go grab your copy right now... (While it's still available.)
The 7 Great Lies Of Network Marketing
I'm not sure how long she is going to be able to "get away with" sharing this controversial information.
God Bless,
Michael
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jschuman Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 01:37 pm |
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I may not be telling them, but I am going to be using Ann's training to help build my MLM business thanks to you Michael. This is avery good report and an excellent system Ann has put together to help all of us be more successful without having to go out and put it all together ourselves. Using the "7 Lies" report is a very easy thing to give away.
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FreedomFire Administrator

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Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2007 12:58 am |
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Did You Download Your FREE Report?
Just wanted to check and see if you had a chance to download and read "The 7 Great Lies of Network Marketing" yet?
If not, you need to head straight over to the URL below and grab your complimentary copy while you still can!
The 7 Great Lies Of Network Marketing
The feedback and response I'm getting about this eye-opening report has been nothing short of phenomenal.
One of the most common questions I've been asked is...
"Who is Ann Sieg?"
Well, I've known about Ann for a while now. She is an ultra-successful network marketer who has taken the industry by storm over the past couple years (particularly online), building enormous multiple streams of income in a very short period of time.
But, more important to me... She has helped many of her students and associates do the same.
That's what impresses me the most about Ann. It's one thing to build a big group on your own. But to have the ability to distill what you do down to a teachable, duplicatable system is the mark of a true leader.
And Ann has done just that!
Just a couple weeks ago I had the good fortune to get a sneak peak at a program Ann has put together called "The Renegade Network Marketer" system. All I can say is WOW!
If you think her "7 Great Lies" report is going to change the industry... Just wait until she's done putting the finishing touches on the "Renegade System".
The days of building your names list, cold calling and "attacking" strangers at the mall are long gone. Ann's new system is hands down the best Network Marketing education I've ever seen.
It's not available yet. But trust me... as soon as it's ready you'll be the first to know.
Until then, make sure you take the time download and read "The 7 Great Lies of Network Marketing". There is no cost and I can promise you that it will dramatically change the way you look at this business FOREVER!
Here's the link again:
The 7 Great Lies Of Network Marketing
Even if you've already downloaded the free report, make sure you actually go back and read it in depth. You may discover you've been telling many of the "7 Great Lies" without even knowing it.
God Bless,
Michael
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JFulker Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2007 04:36 am |
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That is definitely true, unfortunately many prospects I talk to have a bad feeling in their mouth because of the lies they or someone they know has been told. It's amazing to me that some of the big MLM companies that have been around for a long time not only preach those seven lies, they make you sign a contract that you will provide the names of 20 people you know to your upline leaders. Another MLM guru out there is a woman named Kim Klaver, she preaches against many of those same lies, plus gives many ideas of how to build a business without talking to friends and family. Her website is http://mlm911.com.
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Melvin The Alcoholic Goodrum Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2007 06:28 pm |
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I'm not a big fan of these:
No Selling
No 3 way calls
No door to door
No work nessesary
Just push a button and your have 30,000 dollars in 6 minutes
It takes hard work to be successful and that's in any business or work you do. There is no such thing as "lazy wealth
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Gery_D Member

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Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2007 05:30 pm |
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Melvin The Alcoholic Goodrum wrote: I'm not a big fan of these:
No Selling
No 3 way calls
No door to door
No work nessesary
Just push a button and your have 30,000 dollars in 6 minutes
It takes hard work to be successful and that's in any business or work you do. There is no such thing as "lazy wealth
That, my friend, is exactly the point. I have turned down many systems because the prospecting methods they teach are no different than the lines people hear within their business opportunities. Many folks are led to believe that in the prospecting materials they receive. Some may well be accurate in theory but it takes large numbers of customers/prospects, a measure of trust, and follow up. The essential elements of S-A-L-E-S. For sales/recruiting in numbers large enough to be profitable it takes time, effort and money. There is a way to minimize the time and money so that you can draw better results from your efforts. As I told someone the other day, even if there was an Easy Button, you would still have to keep pushing it to make the system work. When will you have the time to do what needs to be done to make the results profitable on a recurring basis?
Too many folks do not have the budget or the system in place to enhance their number of potential contacts. The free eBook explains many of those things and offers an alternative. I have no problem whether someone chooses an alternate system as long as they learn what it takes ahead of time rather than after they've sunk hundreds or thousands of dollars into a business opportunity based on untruths or incomplete explanations.
Thanks for raising that issue.
Last edited on Wed Jun 6th, 2007 05:36 pm by Gery_D
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Hagen_J Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 7th, 2007 06:58 am |
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I think that the people who fall for the "no work, easy money" sales pitch are the people who you don't really want in the business anyway, since they only end up wasting everyone's time (including theirs).
I'd be willing to bet that most of the people who stick it out and become successful ALREADY look at their program as a business - before the sales pitch is even done.
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Michael Peters Member

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Posted: Thu Jun 7th, 2007 12:43 pm |
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Hello FreedomFire,
I would like you to see something I've created in your honor...
"I've created a page that provides you with a link to download Ann Sieg's ebook about "The 7 Great Lies of Network Marketing" for FREE..."
You can visit that page and share any thoughts you have about it with all of us, thank you...!
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FreedomFire Administrator

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Posted: Thu Jun 7th, 2007 06:20 pm |
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All I can say Mike is....WOW!!!
You my friend are a VERY talented individual. The website you "just whipped up" is amazing and very professional. You're a pretty talented fella. 
I'd say you more than "created".....you're "creative".
Thanks for "getting it" too....you captured the jest of everything about 7 Lies perfectly!
God Bless,
Michael
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sueseward Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 7th, 2007 08:25 pm |
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Michael I appreciate you introducing me to Ann Seig's
ebook and Renegade Network Marketing information.
This is some of the most REAL information I've seen in
a long time guys and gals.
In fact, I've been saying the same thing for years!
It's all about the marketing. I learned that years
ago from my mentors.
If I had the time I'd put together similiar training
myself! It's great to have something to plug
people into.
It's about time someone did this.
This is generic training information for ANYONE in
Network Marketing. You can also use it to build
your list.
So it's a nice way to not only help train your
team but it's a great way to build your list.
People are desperate for a SYSTEM guys and
gals.
You can have the best product, best company,
best compensation plan, best management
team in the whole wide world but if you don't
have a marketing system in place to plug
people into it won't do you or anyone
else much good because people will flounder
without a system to market their business.
Personally I've put an online marketing system
together for our team because people have
been craving it. They want to learn how to
market on the Internet. I realize it's all about
the marketing so I put a step by step simple
system in place and did a coaching call on it.
I also explain to people that it takes money,
time AND effort to build a REAL business and a
career in Network Marketing.
Decide if you even want to build a career. Or
do you just want to just earn a little extra income.
Some people like myself have built a career. I'm
interested in earning a $50K+ a month income
and that's what I've built a foundation for and
I have no doubt that it's gonna develop because
of the foundation and the plan I have in place.
Do you have a plan? Make sure you do!
I'm looking forward to seeing what comes out
in a week or so. Sounds too like it's gonna be
affordable too.
The Truth Will Set You Free!
Your Partner In Success,
Sue
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Michael Peters Member

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Posted: Fri Jun 8th, 2007 12:18 am |
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This comment is for FreedomFire - Michael...!
Man, when I read what you said about the page I built in your honor, it gave me this choked up feeling in my chest from the pure pride. Couldn't breathe for a moment but that's ok, I liked it...
I'm really glad you thought my site looked as good & professional as you say but I've really tried to make the site look as unprofessional & friendly or welcoming as I could. But I digress to say that I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to keeping things in my life in order so that's probably why you said it looks professional and I take that as a compliment, thank you...
Case in point, I have really put a lot of thought into the navigation, the look & feel and the content of my web site because, if you read My Accident Story on my site, you understand why it's so important to me that I keep things in order. The main reason is because of what my head injury did to my memory after my first accident...
I'm also glad I was able to honor you in such a way...
ttyl,
Michael Peters
Last edited on Sun Jun 10th, 2007 03:25 am by Michael Peters
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Posted: Fri Jun 22nd, 2007 01:10 am |
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Micheal,
I just wanted to send a heartfelt thanks to you as well. I so appreciate you setting up this forum. It is going to prove a powerful tool in helping people get started in learning how to work their business in a different way.
For anyone who puchased The Renegade Network Marketer this could be a great place to exchange ideas, tips and stories of success in how it has helped them to promote their primary business and allowed them to actually have people "come to them" regarding their business.
The tools and resources are abundant, the possibilities are limited only by each individual. I personally have begun working to become a living proof example of what can be done when you apply some well chosen resources.
I'll keep you posted as I progress, and look forward to keeping in touch here.
Katherine
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Posted: Fri Jun 22nd, 2007 03:17 am |
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Michael,
This will be a wonderful resource for all the "Renegades" out there. I am looking forward to sharing tips and tricks that I find with everyone here.
I have lots to learn and would love to share what I do!
Thank you for offering this for all of us!!
Candace
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AussieRNM Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 22nd, 2007 09:41 pm |
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Thanks for creating a great forum. I am looking forward to seeing how the philosophy taught in The Renegade Network Marketer is going to infulence our industry as a whole, over time. I am quite confident that the impact will be very positive. Congratulations to Ann Sieg.
Stephen Anderson
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Posted: Sat Jul 7th, 2007 03:30 am |
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Michael Peters wrote: Hello FreedomFire,
I would like you to see something I've created in your honor...
"I've created a page that provides you with a link to download Ann Sieg's ebook about "The 7 Great Lies of Network Marketing" for FREE..."
You can visit that page and share any thoughts you have about it with all of us, thank you...!
SBI user I see, me too eventually.
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Michael Peters Member

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Posted: Mon Jul 30th, 2007 11:58 pm |
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Yes Robert and I'm really glad I just happened to see a link to the SBI! site cause I absolutely love all I've learned and all I've done on my site - it's actually the first site I've ever built and it looks great...
Not only that but it's SE rank just keeps going up & up & up, I love it...!

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cornettes Member

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Posted: Tue Jul 31st, 2007 02:42 pm |
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Ann's program is good, really good. She has one of the best back end marketing areas I've ever seen of any affliate program. The problem is that she does not give much meat on how to actually turn around and market the system effectively.
Whenever somebody buys the renegade from me I always get the same question, ok, sounds great, what now?
Am I the only one that experiences this?
Yes there are a lot of resources in the back office and other affiliate programs to buy to help in this area but that just leads people down 10 other rabbit trails and ends up leading to zero action.
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eedocsmith Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 18th, 2007 03:29 pm |
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cornettes wrote: Ann's program is good, really good. She has one of the best back end marketing areas I've ever seen of any affliate program. The problem is that she does not give much meat on how to actually turn around and market the system effectively.
Whenever somebody buys the renegade from me I always get the same question, ok, sounds great, what now?
Am I the only one that experiences this?
Yes there are a lot of resources in the back office and other affiliate programs to buy to help in this area but that just leads people down 10 other rabbit trails and ends up leading to zero action.
I guess as with most things, its usually what you find out yourself that seems to work best....basically....serendipity. The renegade doesn't have buy into the system. As everything appears to be so fragmented and formulaic nowadays, discovering your own path forward can seem like a breath of fresh air.
With so much internet `frenzy'....everybody selling to everyone....its difficult to stand out from the `herd'. I'm sort of reminded of the 1970's TV `mystery movie' detective series `Columbo' starring Peter Falk. Columbo, you may recall, adopted an oblique approach to bringing in his suspect (prospect). Usually lulling them into a false sense of security by appearing somewhat casual, especially in his attire! (no corporate polyester suits here!) This tactic often led his suspects (prospects) into revealing too much about themselves.
In short, Columbo didn't buy leads/informants or use massive police/corporate backup....he did it his way....like Frank Sinatra! Perhaps we could all save much money and time by building our affiliate/network marketing businesses by `keeping it simple'.......being a renegade shouldn't be complicated.
Its all those hustlers out there, selling the tools and transportation to the `Klondikers' who are the real dream stealers. As long as we don't get lazy and ensure we use our own best resources, then being a renegade can be fun!
Cheers EEDS
Last edited on Sat Aug 25th, 2007 05:34 pm by eedocsmith
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FreedomFire Administrator

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Posted: Sat Aug 18th, 2007 09:33 pm |
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Shawn,
Trying sharing this with those who need more help to understand what they have...and how to put it to work for them.
http://www.therenegadesystem.com/walkthrough.html
Info like this is in the back office .... listed in the Help section .... if folks will just take the time to look. If they have any questions just use the Help Notice. Andrew et al are very responsive with lending a hand.
I guess I don't see the same issue as you. Marketing Renegade seems clear to me...with the tools etc. for doing that. The tools/resources for setting up a marketing system of your own...could use a better step by step road map. But I understand that is planned.
Remeber too...Renegade is a "living" thing. Tweeks and additions will be common so it stays fresh and grows in worthwhile content.
Good Bless,
Michael
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Posted: Wed Sep 26th, 2007 11:50 am |
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For so many years I searched for that secret nobody in my company was telling me. Hours and hours, days and days...the search went on.
Finally I found something that actually makes sense...The Renegade Network Marketer. I'm now using this system and I can tell you I just love it.
For the first time in my Network Marketing career, I feel like I'm in the driver's seat of my business - instead of my upline dictating to me what actions I should or shouldn't take. I can honestly say that for the first time, I feel empowered and sure of myself as a business woman...and people are starting to come to me as an expert for help with their situation. The program is fabulous, but you do have to work it...just like any other marketing persuit you take on.
If you haven't had a chance to check this out, it's must see information...and very different from most of the training and advice you've heard before.
Juli
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