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countrychick
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Posted: Sat Jun 24th, 2006 05:44 am |
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Thanks Mark for your comment. It was very well thought out and made lots of sense.
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vern
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Posted: Tue Jul 4th, 2006 09:21 am |
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mworthen wrote: countrychick,
I think there is a big difference between a thoughtful, intelligent, and helpful post with a link in a sig file on the one hand and a hyped up sales letter for the latest flash-in-a-pan, get-rich-quick scheme on the other.
I like seeing which companies people are with. I also learn how to write better headlines and similar copy because some of the folks on forums are darn good a grabbing my attention with their one-sentence sig files!
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honestly, I totally agree with you. In fact, its really a learning journey of getting better that what you're doing with relation to business and marketing. Thats the real deal to strike attention.
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rhaines84
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Posted: Sat Jul 22nd, 2006 05:52 am |
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I agree also. Everyone is like "me too", but their sig lines are longer than their responses. I personally think it takes away from the forum. People actually come to learn from them sometimes. I really think that we should support each other instead hit each other over the head with shameless promotion.
Maybe it's just me, but if i have nothing really to say I would rather not waste someone else's time. I won't post anything if it doesn't sound half way intelligent. It also has alot to do wih integrity. Some just don't care about rules.
I believe the better impressions you leave people with, IF they are looking for someone to sponsor them than you'll be the first they contact. If everyone takes responsibility for their own actions, wouldn't that make a difference.
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countrychick
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Posted: Sat Jul 22nd, 2006 06:25 pm |
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| Jonsevine, good reply...something to think about.
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vern
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Posted: Tue Aug 1st, 2006 08:16 am |
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hey raines!
totally 100% in agreement. You know I was thinking like : "If someone posts like a 1 sentence post like "hi, congratulations, me too, something".... bs bs bs. I'd like wanna report them for abuse even if it wasn't something to do with advertising. Because in the end, it IS advertising and doing it in a very very spamming way.
I'd like to also protect the interest of others and I know deep inside that those who does multiple spam and irrelevant posting of the topics will one day be exposed and banned from whatevern they were doing and when that day comes all they have is some dollar bills and lost friends.
If someone was really interested in what you have to say they will appraise you not look at your sig line and say oh this is flashy! maybe I should click it! ... thats lame and what most internet marketers do nowadays. Just too bad that this breed is becoming more and more of the norm like flies. The rare ones just get phased off. we know them from the quality ebooks and articles that they are able to produce.
Cheers! Vern
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chompy
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Posted: Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 08:45 am |
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 Would talking to someone about the biz you built with your own two hands, from the ground up be acceptable? That wouldn't be considered a biz opp would it? My problem is trying to get it seen properly, without it being considered spam.
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vern
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Posted: Thu Aug 3rd, 2006 03:30 pm |
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well, chompy - just my opinion ok (exclusive) not the billions thought out there 
If you solicit and the person gets discouraged by either not responding or being in doubt about it (openly i mean in the forum or chat when its supposed to be a healthy discussion about advice and not biz ops) ; then thats considered some sort of spamming.
But if the other party actually asks you personally about your business opportunity. thats fine by the rules. Then again, the final verdict rests with the administrators or the actual moderators of each webmaster or owner of that thread.
oh yeah, on a lighter side , i guess buying leads has to be done graciously by cultivating a sense of trust and interest before doing any kind of selling. 
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asilanna79
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Posted: Thu Aug 10th, 2006 09:49 pm |
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My perspective is a simple. The forums are essentially to share your views and to meet others doing the same thing. A place to gain support. It should not be abused but instead if more of us took the attitude of listening and helping rather than just pushing our own agendas the atmosphere would improve.
Hey people want to know that you care not that you see them like another dollar sign.
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mlole
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Posted: Fri Aug 11th, 2006 06:33 pm |
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Well well,
I just joined this forum section, and is it ever heated in here.
But Let's take advantage of the fact that some individuals do bring nuggets of information to the table that we can all benefit from for our endeavors.
Now, we can all agree that marketing/promotion is what drives our businesses. With the explosion of individual joing Business opportunities, the challenge that will all face is how to differentiate ourselves from the next home business person.
And that's just it, we need to be different. From the fact that we move away from generic company pages, to impersonal landing pages.
The people outthere looking for opportunities especially in the "impersonal" platform that the Internet is, will always be more prone to do business with people: they know/like/trust.
So the key thing is find a way to give those opportunity seeking individuals the chance to get to know "you". And the person that they could be helping them achieve their financial goals.
You all hear about the the failure rate in the Network-marketing industry. No wonder why people are so disillusioned about Business opportunities.
I believe (awaiting your comments) what contributes to success in this industry is a combination of 3 things:
- The company and its duplication system (does it care about itself or your success/ will it leave you high and dry if you don't qualify).
- The savvyness of your leader in making you a success. (Success breeds success. This is the part where "you" need to be perceived as a successful success coach. Because this is the only way people will folck to you)
- Your ability to market any opportunity you may. (Ask yourself. If you company were to go belly-up and you had to start over... could you achieve the same level of success again?)
Many here may say that it is obvious, but I believe it's important emphasize those key points.
To end this, be perceived and that person that will help their new team members/partners succeed, and they will find you. Let them know who you are and develop/nurture those relationships
Til next time with marketing tips.
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residnt
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Posted: Sun Aug 13th, 2006 11:50 pm |
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I know that I've been on several other forums where people will just post an ad for thier latest and greatest opportuinity and just copy and paste with is on the front page of that site. I know for me personally I occasionally read them but there is very little interest from my part as it feels like a car sales man appraoch which doesn't give alot of people a really comfortable approach. I have also seen it where alot of people who as just asking questions about different MLM's will pop in and take over the postings with ads as well which isn't really helpfully to anyone at all.
A forum if a place where people can connect and discuss ideas and thoughts. Would you ever go to a restarunt where you ask a question to the waiter/waitress and they tried to sell you some time share in the bahamas. I didn't think so.
Any ways thats just my thoughts on this.
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carsonallen
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Posted: Thu Aug 17th, 2006 02:28 am |
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Great Post Freedom
You should use these forums to help each other in this mlm jungle.
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MPieper
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Posted: Thu Aug 17th, 2006 03:20 am |
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Michael,
You're right...and it's the main reason why I continue to participate in this forum. It is exhausting to be constantly bombared by pre-cut adds and people regurgitating the same boring catch-pages. It is refreshing to be able to come here, exchange ideas, and actually learn about other members of our industry.
So thank you for that.
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carsonallen
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Posted: Thu Aug 17th, 2006 06:29 am |
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| Yes like the regurgitating "Only loosers pay for leads", when they pay for them. Kind of mis-leading, don't ya think
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MPieper
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Posted: Thu Aug 17th, 2006 10:48 am |
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Carson,
I'm assuming your post is referring to my promotion of Magnetic Sponsoring? If it is, then you're mistaken about the concept being misleading. If you'd like to talk more, all you have to do is ask.
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carsonallen
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Posted: Thu Aug 17th, 2006 06:31 pm |
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Mpiper
No, I wasn't refering to your offer. I was aggreing with your last post. When you talk about regeritating adds. I was refering to the "pre-scripted add that the pay it forward guys used. I tried it for about an hour. It's nothing more then a regergitated add "Only Loosers pay for leads"; Yet they are paying a few hundred a month.
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MPieper
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Posted: Thu Aug 17th, 2006 10:03 pm |
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Ah yes, I'm familiar with that add. I think if people are committed to promoting something (business, training, advertising, etc), they need to be willing to back it up 100%.
I read an email from one of my prospects saying that they had only been in their particular business for 3 months and were already making a full time income. I asked if he was being serious (I was in this industry over 3 years before I made a dime...), and why he was looking for a change if he was doing so well. He sheepishly came back saying that he had just cut and pasted from his company's website.
Come on people...most of us aren't idiots!
Yours in Greater Success,
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carsonallen
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Posted: Fri Aug 18th, 2006 05:02 am |
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Very True Mpieper
I like the fact that you are honest. I don't know why people stoop to such level to make a buck. In the business(not home based) I run with Aflac it is not a get rich quick lie, but it is a get rich eventually. I am doing very well; all Glory be to God. I get 2 to 5 dollars a month for the rest of my life off of each policy I write and every policy is guranteed renewable for life and only 30% cancel. My regional coordenator is making money every month off of policies he wrote in 1982.
So I have a taste of resiudals and I know how much better it is then geting paid by the hour. I am sure you have discovered the same. The thing is you have to be willing to gut it out and BUILD your business with hard work. Not lie or boast about some fly by night 85,000 dollar's in three weeks opportunity.
The fact that you admit to not making a dime for three years proves to me and everyone else that you are for real and that you are willing to work towards building your residuals. So keep it up mpieper; your husband is a blessed man.
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carsonallen
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Posted: Fri Aug 18th, 2006 05:09 am |
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One more thing
I like the fact that you called that prospect on the carpet. Why in the world would someone boast of making that much money and be looking for another business to run. And another thing, If they are realy earning 80,000 in two weeks with there system; Why cant they borrow there downline a grand or two to pay there mortgauge for a few months while they get started.
I promise If God ever grants me that much money that is the kind of things I will do for my downline. Heck; what's a few grand to somone who makes 90 million in twenty seconds with there "Proven tunr key program"
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vern
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Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2006 06:35 am |
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Hi Merideth,
I just noticed that you're residing now in south korea ? Thats fun right ? My fiance (will be officially my wife in December this year) has been there and she loves the weather and beautiful environment but the food was pretty bland  Its the preference maybe.
However, I especially liked your last phrase " come on people... most of us aren't idiots!"
Thats a hit-em-right-on-the-head statement because building a business takes time and effort. Thats the plain truth.
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MPieper
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Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2006 08:55 am |
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Haha - thanks Vern.
Well, that's one of the biggest reasons our industry has gotten such a bad rap in the last decade or so. People are making outrageous claims that they can't back up. Are there businesses out there that can achieve that kind of income in that kind of time? Of course...I know several people who have done this. But these are people who are willing to do what it takes to achieve their goals...and it often involves a level of commitment most people aren't willing or able to make.
And yes, Korea is a wonderful country. The difficult part of it for me is that I'm separated from my husband during this tour (I'm in the Navy). But, that's a huge part of my motivation to succeed in network marketing. Those plane tickets home are pricey!
Yours in greater success,
Merideth
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