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hk997
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Posted: Sat Jul 29th, 2006 11:40 pm |
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newhopesupport, i agree with you, the best leads are when you talk to someone face to face, it's free and you have more success closing them!
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Posted: Sun Aug 6th, 2006 07:42 am |
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| yes, but if they are far away in another country and you don't have their phone number. Its the art of your sales page or website and emails that count in closing anything or shall we say in getting your prospect to make a decision.
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Posted: Thu Oct 5th, 2006 06:38 am |
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hk997 wrote: newhopesupport, i agree with you, the best leads are when you talk to someone face to face, it's free and you have more success closing them!
As far as talking to someone face to face about your business opportunity, I never did it in the early stages after joining a MLM system. I waited to have my own success story, which means a duplicatable system that doesn't rely on going after your warm market - friends and family.
Only after I have built my business through a duplicatable system first, I would share it with my warm market, because I wanted them to make money too, not to make money off of them.
Also, I gave up on talking to the leads on the phone. I was a part of an MLM, which consisted of calling leads and inviting them to a tele-conference, where someone well experienced was doing the presentations. Sounded very simple for average people to succeed (talking only for 2-3 minutes to the leads to invite them, and following up after the presentation). However, I realized that an average person is not too comfortable talking on the phone with leads (no matter what the quality of leads), and there was no true duplication.
I was good at it (I never had a previous experience, just became very dedicated and motivated), I enrolled about 20 people in my first couple of months, but about 15 of them quit soon, since they couldn't duplicate successfully, and the other 5 just enrolled 1 or 2, and pretty much gave up and just stayed as customers. It became frustrating for me too, since I had to bring in 5-10 people each month, just to maintain my downline numbers. And I lost the faith in the duplication ability of that system, and I lost the enthusiasm and drive I used to have when I was talking to people in the beginning, and I stopped doing as well myself.
Now I'm using a system which has a pre-written autoresponder follow up messages. No talking on the phone, so it's much easier to duplicate. And it's important that the program you're in has a good support (a forum at least, and if possible live training calls) in case that relatively new members can not answer some questions of their new enrollees.
I think it's not as much as how good you are at enrolling, but how easy and duplicatable for an average person the system is.
all the best,
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Posted: Thu Oct 5th, 2006 04:58 pm |
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| Yes I believe creating your own leads is best but for someone new the problem is generating traffic. The key I believe for anyone new is learning how to generate quality traffic, then you can generate your own leads.
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Posted: Sun Oct 22nd, 2006 11:16 pm |
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Hi Jared
There is what is called direct response marketing where you can, through different
marketing strategies, get very interested leads without paying for them.
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topcareercoach
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Posted: Mon Oct 23rd, 2006 06:13 am |
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| You made a good point about patience early on. Whether you pay for leads or generate your own, the aim should be to build long-term relationships and trust. Once people trust you, they will be more likely to join your program.
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vern
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Posted: Mon Oct 23rd, 2006 02:45 pm |
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I personally feel that purchased leads can be highly
targetted but it does cost a lot or you'd have to do
your due diligence to follow up with them. But once
you hit just a few of them joining you or being in your
team - wow.. that's exactly where the explosion starts.
A great impact for me when I first started out in
internet marketing was to generate my very own leads.
Once I gained the experience needed and became a
regular skill for me - I'd move on to purchase leads and
test them out.
This was leverage because I'd want to develop some
follow up skills from my homegrown leads before bringing
disaster to my purchased leads.. after all, they COST Money!
Double opt-in.. hmmm well it's a CANSPAM law but yes if you
have your own autoresponder script , you can totally X that out.
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Over59
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Posted: Fri Oct 27th, 2006 08:27 pm |
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There are several lead generation programs available is that what is ment by generat your oun leads. I not talking about face to face lead generation
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FreedomFire
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Posted: Sat Oct 28th, 2006 02:53 am |
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No...lead generation programs does not mean "generating your own leads". Those types of programs do most of it for you...such as buying leads from soemone like Peak Impact.
Generating your own leads means using techniques like lead capture pages, SEO techniques with your website, blogging with a newsletter sign-up or contact info capture feature etc., Google Adwords, Pay-Per-Click programs, sizzle cards you hand out, post card mailing campaigns, newspaper ads, personal contact via local events or Chamber of Commerce meetings, etc. There's more such ideas shared in this thread....read through it and you'll find more.
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Globalflow
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Posted: Sat Oct 28th, 2006 11:53 pm |
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About working leads...
You can not expect to buy a list of leads and think that what is suppose to happen is they immediately fall in love with your subject line, love your letter and join your program.
That is not reality...
Here is what works pretty darn good for me...
I want to get my prospects off my first list asap. How?
I use a source where I build an umlimited amount of lead capture pages.
In my initial emails to my fresh list I always offer further info in the form of my ezine or newsletter.
When I speak to people I always offer them my free ezine or newsletter just in case, so they keep getting an education on how to make money online.
They click on a link and are sent to one of my lead capture pages which BRIEFLY intros my newsletter professionally and they opt in.
Each of my lead capture pages is connected to it's own autoresponder where I load my newsletter series. I really focus on good content, stuff I read from other books, ezines, ebooks, and courses I attend.
You can offer them a few different kinds of information, i.e.
Online Business Basics
Online Marketing Basics
Advanced Online Marketing Strategies
How to Build A Better YOU
etc...
Those quick offers for more specific info do plenty of great things...
Cleans your list. It's like a filter where the more serious people raise their hand.
Allows you to focus on positioning yourself as an expert that can help them succeed.
And it filters all the tire kickers and liars... blunt but true.
Leads can be awesome.
You just have to be professional and creative in how you handle them.
This simple system of working leads is super cheap too, it's not about money.
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keith Patton
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Posted: Mon Nov 6th, 2006 12:48 am |
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Hi Larry ,
Just a quick question about magnetic sponsoring how much does it cost per month?
Keith
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ebusinesstutor
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Posted: Tue Nov 14th, 2006 06:25 pm |
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I never buy any leads.
Instead, I create my own lead capture pages, offer a valuable free giveaway, and then drive traffic to them. This way I know they are "real" leads that aren't resold over and over again.
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Posted: Thu Nov 23rd, 2006 10:36 am |
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I have been calling leads for a long time, and I am wondering what everyone else does when they call. I have a couple of training programs on how to call leads, and one is more of a persuasion type of training. The other, ofcourse, is a sorting method.
The persuasion is more of a conversation type recruiting. Asking questions, probing, etc... I have found this method works well with those who will listen, but most leads I call seem to feel I am invading their privacy or something.
The direct method seems to work better. I just call, introduce myself, and ask them if they are still interested in making x amount of money per month working part time. Yes, I give them the # and call back to collect a decision.
For some reason I tend to like the idea of persuading, only because I feel like I am doing something more productive. The sorting feeling very impersonal, and like I am skipping over prospects that would have joined had I spent a little more time with them.
Any views on this?
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Posted: Thu Nov 23rd, 2006 12:05 pm |
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| I tend to use a combination of both. I call up and ask questions and listen to what they have to say. Then my last question is always, do you have any questions for me? However, I only buy very specific targeted leads and the rest of the time they have already visited my website so they know quite a bit about me and my business already.
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FreedomFire
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Posted: Fri Nov 24th, 2006 02:44 pm |
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NOTICE: I combined 2 board threads together to make this one...in case the earliest posts in this thread now look a bit disjointed.
The "original" post for this thread should be the one begining "Share your tips, ideas, resources, experiences, news, questions, & comments about MLM leads programs and generating leads in this thread."
Having 2 threads with the same info and discussion...when this one was set-up to cover the entire dialogue ... didn't make sense for the forum.
So....continue on please. Just keep all the discussion on leads, leads programs, lead generation, etc. in this thread as a repository for everyone to go to...and save some forum space. Thanks.
God Bless,
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Globalflow
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Posted: Sun Dec 3rd, 2006 06:31 am |
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You can pretty much automate your lead generation online pretty quick and cheap these days considering that buying "good" leads a few years ago and even today can be very expensive, specially for beginners.
It takes a few steps and many of the people here have already gotten that down...
1. A good converting lead capture page. I've used EZLeadCature.com for a good while and Carl Sorensen over there is really good. I think it's only $67 for unlimited lead capture pages and each comes with its own autoresponder for follow up.
I recommend you spend the yearly $167 to have Carl build you a custom one and you still get unlimited pages (recreate your custom to serve different angles), and still get great service and autoresponders for each page.
Really good for newbies that want to look pro right now. And cheap!
2. Your sales page or presentation page at your opportunity has to be killer. Ad copy rules!! Without a good sales page or presentation page you will NOT convert. Believe me, I found out the hard way.
Several online opps and MLM programs geared for online marketing and lead by true industry leaders have you covered on this one.
Ok so, once these 2 HUGE steps are taken care of we need to drive super TARGETED traffic to your site.
LEARN google adwords (perry marshall has a super ebook on this).
It has a learning curve! So, in the meantime try some reputable targeted traffic source. I've used these two and they do send great targeted traffic to your lead capture page. Get with your upline or leader for good converting ezine solo ad copy or email copy and send it here:
http://www.BigTrafficTidalWave.com
Check out their different plans and work with them personally to fine tune your campaign.
http://www.Rent-A-List.com
They are great too. Send them your copy, and CALL them. They will work on formatting and targetting your message for best response.
And then, the rubber meets the road...
Gotta learn to follow up well and close. And that happens with practice... Lots of it.
Or a super duper system, team and leadership to help you on conference calls and 3-ways. Most solid programs have good recorded training calls and recorded conference calls you can link up to.
Hey keep at it and keep having fun!
Franco
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Mark G
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Posted: Sun Dec 3rd, 2006 11:20 pm |
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Good to hear all the opinions shares about the leads debate,
very interesting stuff.
I do agree with a lot thats been said. In my
eyes self genersted leads are good leads to use. They are true
leads which you can never complain about being cheap or false.
My only issue with this simply is time is money. I do gather my
own leads but i limit it too a specific amount of time spent per
month. Its unbelievable how you can stumble on leads so keep
alerted at all times.
"The money is in the list", a well known mlm
saying. I believe this to be true in my experience those who have
the larger list of leads tend to have the most success. This is prob
because those ppl are likes doers and not lifes thinkers they take
action.
To expand your list paid leads are vital, sorry quality paid leads
are vital. The correct company is crutial. I find 4Question surveyed
+ leads are very beneficial. Below that your creating additional
work for yourself. What i do is use a system which involves
a few specific researched and tested affiliate set ups. I earn residual
income which more than covers my leads cost therefore i do not pay
for leads. At the same time i generate my own leads through added
affiliation filtering people towards my primary business. Win win!
This is easy for anybody to do.
I know everyone has there own methods and i do believe there is
more than one way to skin a cat. It really comes down to what you
personally are comfortable with, what works best for you and how
much time you have to spare.
All the best
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Posted: Tue Jan 2nd, 2007 06:56 pm |
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| We have to have leads. The more targeted, the better qualified. Have you considered a lead afilliate program? Promote their leads and earn free leads in return.
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Posted: Sat Jan 27th, 2007 09:37 pm |
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I had the same problems with leads that I purchased as well. I would call and they would tell me "I'm not interested!" or "How did you get my number" or the best one "no llamarme otra vez" I don't speak spanish but that doesn't sound good to me!
I create my own lead capture pages. I have about 10 of them and I do very targeted marketing with these pages with great success. Your list is slower to build than when you purchase leads, but you will get targeted response from people who have "raised their hands" so to speak.
Maybe I should sell my leads to you! Real cheap! How about a beer per 3 leads? I think that's fair! lol
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JaredM wrote: I have been searching around for lead providers, and have noticed almost everyone recommends Telephone Verified Leads. What do you use, and how?
Ex: Do you buy Double Opt-Ins and then use them for email campaigns? Or do you use them for calling? / Do you buy Surveyed Leads for telephone contact?
Just curious what the use for the cheaper leads is exactly, especially when a lot of the people who are not Phone Verified are not anywhere near serious about finding a business.
Most people I have called from DoubleOpt-In or Surveyed leads say they dont ever remember filling them out.
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Posted: Sun Jan 28th, 2007 12:43 am |
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| I also have started to create my own lead capture pages. I am anxious to see how this works. Great to hear that it is working for you.
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