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FreedomFire
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Posted: Wed May 23rd, 2007 01:27 am |
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Before I get started...I want to make it very clear that it is not my intention in any way to offend any individual or disparage any particular company. I'll be blunt in my personal opinion and observations. However, I would really like to see each of you do an honest, open, heart wrenching examination of your soul in relation to a phenomenon I call the "Jumping Frog Disease".
My good friend Frank Garon, publisher of a major online newsletter, calls people with this habit online "internet sheep". The symptoms are jumping from one opportunity to another looking for the next Big Thing. Some describe it as an attitude that the grass is always greener someplace else. And to be fair, this phenomenon is not the sole domain of Network Marketing....or even Internet Opportunities. It's also common in the "real" world of brick and mortar business.
This disease can actually take many forms. And not all are bad. Someone may be legitimatelly unhappy and looking for something better than where they are. Their move is well planned, logical, and with good reason. Hopefully these folks will learn from their experience and be able to evaluate their next opportunity better than they did their last.
The primary reasons I see as destructive are those which exhibit either a "love 'em & leave 'em" mentality....or a reactive response to the emotional frenzy generated by a new "big thing".
Examples of the later can be seen in recent months to "big things" like cookies, super water, streaming music, cure all patches, financial education, stock games, video email, greeting cards, VoIP phones, the latest juice, and the like (not naming names). And I'm not passing judgement on these opportunities per say...rather pointing out a lemming like stampede of many from seemingly good "homes" to the "next big thing". For some folks it was done with thought and forsight. For many others it was purely an emotional "me too" reaction...and not the first (or last) time they've done that.
Examples of the first "destructive" reason are those who build and leave...often taking many others with them (these people are sometimes called mercenaries). Perhaps they were bored. Or perhaps they saw the chance for another big score....another notch on their belt so to speak. Only they really know for sure...all assumptions aside. But the effect on those left behind is one of being abandoned. Especially when those who left were counted on and touted as leaders. [ some leadership] And it can be particularly devestating on those newbies who depended on those individuals for their "example".
My personal take is that if you do your homework you should be able find a home you can stay in for a long time. Now things do happen...and when they do by all means move on. There are legitimate reasons to do so then. I'm proof of that....I started my journey with ACN (way back in the day LOL).
But if you see dollar signs in every new thing that comes along, continually starting over.... Or you continually build & jump from one Biz to another, leaving disruption and turmoil in your wake....then it's a bad habit. A habit which weakens individual, company, and industry reputations.
Now I've been both a beneficiary and a victim of the "Jumping Frog Disease". And I've been solicited many times to become a Jumping Frog myself.
It's no secret that I used to work both Cognigen and Melaleuca. My Cognigen organization has benefited from the addition of a few former ACN, Excel, and ITI distributors (none of which I personally sponsored BTW). My Melaleuca business became the victim of defections of most of my partners (upline) and downline to a weight loss start-up and a Melaleuca want to be. In fact I was even solicited by one company which was targeting Melaleuca members specifically.
My reaction to being a "victim" was to just keep doing what I was doing before. And to trust that God has good reasons for that happening. Maybe He was intending to send my way some new people who'd be better partners...or better "brothers & sisters"....or who needed something He wanted me to share. In other words I took a glass half full attitude. Although I did end up dropping Melaleuca soon thereafter (long story with the "raid" just 1 of the reasons).
Personally I would never purposely recruit from another company. I have however listened to people who have come to me interested in possibly making a change. My approach with them is to focus on what is in their best interest.....not mine. Return to where they were...or find a better fit. Even if that better fit isn't with me and/or my company. Afterall...and I firmly believe this...it's about what you do FOR people not TO people....that matters most in our industry.
So...........(finally after all that rambling.... ) here are a few questions I throw out for you to think about:
1. What are good reasons for looking for a new opportunity...or when do you know it's the right time for a change?
2. How would you help someone honestly looking to make a change without damaging your own integrity.?
3. What are bad reasons for jumping to another opportunity....or when do you know it's not a good time for a change?
4. What would you do if someone (or many someone's) jumped from your organization to another company?
Ok folks...you'll have to find the answers to these for yourself. Whatever that personal revelation is....will say a great deal about what kind of a professional and person you really are or are perceived to be.
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Posted: Wed May 23rd, 2007 04:18 am |
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FreedomFire wrote: 1. What are good reasons for looking for a new opportunity...or when do you know it's the right time for a change?
First off Michael, just want to let you know that this is a great topic for a thread. I'll be first to comment. As much as I'd love to "Ramble on" about this topic, I'll just give some input on the first of your questions.
Let's start off with the first part of the question. I am not quite sure that there are "Good" reasons for looking for a new opportunity. I mean let's face it, if the opportunity that you are in is providing everything that you were looking for, then chances are you wouldn't be looking for a new opportunity at all. So, what are "Some" reasons? I believe the main reason that people look for new opportunity is because they are not realizing what they once "Believed" was possible for them in the opportunity/company that they are currently in. Chances are if a person is building a big business that is providing real and exciting income they would stay focused on what they were doing and it would be foolish for them to focus their attention elsewhere. But, the reality is that not all people who participate in a home-based business opportunities become successful. I realize that success is a relative term that can very dramatically from one person to the next. But if/when a person loses their passion for their business or company, then I believe they may be at the right time to investigate making a change. I for one hope this never occurs for any one reading this thread. From experience I can tell you that this is not the best time in building your long-term residual income. Nevertheless, it is definitely a reality. This also will answer the second part of the question, "When do you know it's the right time for a change?" You almost always know this if you can not muster up some genuine and sincere passion and enthusiasm for what you are doing. Some people do try to fake being excited about their opportunity but, seldom do you see people do this effectively. I will always encourage people to step back and assess their situation closely if they are not excited about what they are doing. Once the passion and excitement is gone they may as well retire from that business.
The good news is that there are many opportunities that can replace an even excite that person to another level. Which will in turn get them to take action again. It's all part of the process sometimes that people have to take to make it in this industry... which I consider to be greatest industry in the world... Bar None!
Looking forward to other replies,
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Posted: Wed May 23rd, 2007 09:09 am |
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Michael-
I saw you post and I thought now this is a post worth responding to. My response will be brief and very pointed.
1. What are good reasons for looking for a new opportunity...or when do you know it's the right time for a change?
The answer to this question is simple, atleast in my case. I left ACN and Quixtar (twice) because I was not making any money, and because I did not like the activity of "Bugging my friends relatives and nieghbors" to sign up and buy product and join my "TEAM". I did not like looking for people in Malls and elevators who were "sharp" and would be a good fit for the business I was working.
To me the preceeding are two very good reasons why someone would start looking for a new opportunity.
2. How would you help someone honestly looking to make a change without damaging your own integrity.?
I could make a change without damaging my integrity because I never left a company to go to another one directly . I can see your point though I know plenty of people who jump ship at the nearest sighting of better water.
I have never jumped right into another opportunity after leaving another one, there was always a gap and some time in between before I found something new.
3. What are bad reasons for jumping to another opportunity....or when do you know it's not a good time for a change?
I do not know what you mean by bad reasons...
I can think of alot of good reasons why someone would jump to a new opportunity. I will list them.
1. Not making any money after a considerable amount of concentrated effort.
2. Bad Upline leadership.
3. Bad Marketing strategy by the company (I know now that there are lots of companies with great products but great products do not mean that you will sell products.)
4. Not enough mark up profit/ commission for selling product or services to make it worth while. (i.e. buying product at $40 and then selling it for $43.00 after spending hours explaining the benefits of the product or service to the customer.)
5. Not liking being part of the NFL (No Friends League) because you bugged them about becoming part of your program so much that now they avoid you.
6. Not liking the activity of recruiting at the Mall and in the elevator.
4. What would you do if someone (or many someone's) jumped from your organization to another company?
To be honest it sounds like you have expirienced what I have witnessed happen in both of the fore mentioned companies (Quixtar and ACN). People leaving out the back door as soon as they get in the front. And sometimes doing so several at a time. AFTER MY LAST COMPANY I VOWED NEVER TO DO NETWORK MARKETING AGAIN, AND I HAVE NOT.
To be completley honest that is why I refuse to work with TRADITIONAL NETWORK MARKETING companies. Not because the companies are bad, but beause of the way the people that are working them behave and are almost trained to behave
Michael to be honest the only way to prevent the attrition that we have expirienced in the past is to get with a company that does have any of the before mentioned issues.
Melaluca and Conigen both have great products. But good products alone are not enough to keep people around to sell them. You have to have good marketing and realistic profits.
I think that a major reason why this Jumping Frog Phenominon is taking place is becuase people are looking for something that is easier to build AND that is REALISTIC.
In my opinion that solution is the DIRECT RESPONSE NETWORK MARKETING INDUSTRY. The company that I now work with has created it and the company has very little attrition.
IN FACT IN ALMOST 10 MONTHS MY UPLINE WHO HAS A DOWNLINE OF OVER 50 PEOPLE HAS YET TO LOOSE A SINGLE PERSON TO ATTRITION OR POACHING AS SOME CALL IT.
WELL MICHAEL. That is my 10 cents worth.
GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS YOU AS WELL.
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Posted: Mon May 28th, 2007 01:31 pm |
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Here's a good reason to change if you have the opportunity to.
You have more great products and you earn more money for having the same number of people in your group. As we all know, in one company you earn $5.00 per person and in others you earn $20.00.
That's a good reason in my opinion.
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Melvin The Alcoholic Goodrum
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Posted: Wed Jul 4th, 2007 12:55 am |
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The main cause of the Jumping Frog Disease is that there are a lot of fly by night MLM companies. They basically come and go.
Best thing to do is to sign up with a company thats stood the test of time, at least 20-30 years and only deal with major companies. I don't even consider any other companies unless they have the numbers and the figures of true growth to back it up
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Posted: Wed Jul 4th, 2007 02:17 am |
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2. How would you help someone honestly looking to make a change without damaging your own integrity.?
Focus on what's best for the person, 100%! I would encourage them to make an educated decision about what step to take next. Network Marketing is a great way to make changes in regards to time and financial freedom. If this is what they are looking for, present educational material in regards to the industry. There are great videos. DVD's and books out there. My favorite is Brilliant Compensation.
Next, I would assist the person in finding the right company for them, based on the persons interests, strengths, and goals. Choosing a company that will be around for them for years to come is also key.
It may be my company, it may not be, but if I can help someone honeslty looking to make a change and assist them in getting it right, I know I'll have a friend for life. If I try to "shove" my opportunity own their throat: I will have burned a bridge.
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Posted: Wed Jul 4th, 2007 06:23 am |
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I'd like to be a little contrarian here.
Yes, people do jump from company to
company but if you've been an experienced
marketer and has seen the comp plans and
also the integrity and products presented
many times online - you'd know how to
decipher better in the future if that company
is giving a good opportunity or not.
I know that many people still hang on
to their company believing it will make
them money but the fact is that not
everyone is suited perfectly in the company
that they're in.
It has to depend on the trend of the market
and also the personality of the person at the
time of joining or becoming an affiliate.
In anycase, you'd be better off doing
something you have at least some kind
of passion to promote on.
Cheers,
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Posted: Wed Jul 11th, 2007 08:39 am |
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The saddest thing is that most people spend their entire lives looking for some "secret" to success, when in reality there isn't one.
All there is is just clear vision, focus, perseverance and hard work.
Only those who realize this simple truth will have a chance for success.
Others will keep looking, starting, quitting, looking, starting, quitting... and on and on. And by quitting and not following through, they train themselves not to complete things in life, and it becomes a vicious cycle.
But the worst thing is, they lose self-trust and self-respect. And you can never succeed without those 2 qualities.
"Age wrinkles your skin, quitting wrinkles your soul".
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Kaizen
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Posted: Wed Jul 11th, 2007 05:01 pm |
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Great topic Michael. I know in my case what may be perceived as "jumping frog" was in retrospect a LONG search for the right company that fit all my criteria not only business-wise but mission-wise as well. It seemed every opp I joined and evaluated came up short on 1 or more of the "critical things list" I was looking for. Fortunately I didn't go full-on building any of them - just asked a few close friends there opinions, etc. I knew if I kept searching I'd find what I was looking for.
Just happy to have found the right opp for me. Lots of good ones out there - it's a personal thing. There's alot of peace in not having to look anymore.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26th, 2007 06:26 am |
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I have to admit this is a very good topic. My experience in MLM and internet marketing is that there are flyby night companies. I have been a part of Many. I found that even though I was building a business and the next day it was gone, It became very frustrating.
I have a friend with the leap frog attitude and he has gotten nowhere with all of his buisinesses. Its hard to show someone with that attitude that they are doing it all wrong. I have learned to stick to things and things only grow.
I had a business at age 21 that grew and went from selling nothing in my first month to selling a ton in the end. THe only problem with that buisiness was that it became my life and I had to break out and do something different.
I am at this time working for an oil company as a remote computer tech. This is something that I am passionate about. The only thing is I am still working in Coporate America. That is not a bad thing for some but there are days I feel trapped.
When my wife brought a business to me I felt impelled to help her and started to look into online marketing. It has a huge potential and it is a great trend right now, but how far will it really take you. Only as far as you let it. The greatest things in life are the things you have to work for. If you do not work for it, there is no appreciation and it all falls apart.
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Posted: Mon Aug 27th, 2007 03:16 pm |
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1. What are good reasons for looking for a new opportunity...or when do you know it's the right time for a change?
I think the best reason for looking for a new opportunity would be if the company you are working with is against your ethics. If it goes against what you believe in then I think you should get out.
If you have been in the business for a year and have spent more 'making money' then the money you have made, I also think it is a good time to evaluate what you are doing, whether it is you, the system, the business, the product, etc.
If it is no longer something you feel passionate about, I think it's a good time to look for something else.
2. How would you help someone honestly looking to make a change without damaging your own integrity.?
I don't think it damages your integrity to help someone else make a change unless you try to get them to join your company when it isn't in their best interest or in their interest level. It all comes down to ethics. If you are honest, and give them their options chances are good that you will walk away with your integrity in place.
3. What are bad reasons for jumping to another opportunity....or when do you know it's not a good time for a change?
Some people get involved with a company because they were lead to believe that it is a get rich quick scenerio. It isn't. Whatever business you start you have to start it understanding that you have to put in hard work.
If you haven't put in any work then it is a bad reason to jump ship. But, if your heart isn't in it maybe you should 'jump ship'.
4. What would you do if someone (or many someone's) jumped from your organization to another company?
I would ask them what made them decide to do it. Other then that, I would keep doing what I do. Tell them that I'd still like to keep in touch depending on the way they went about it. And go from there.
Most of these questions are sitation depending.
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| I think most leaders jump from oppty to oppty to capitalize on the trust of their team. To have them pay them again for another oppty. You see it all the time with direct sales companies. It is rare for people to stay in one place when the new next great idea comes out. I firmly belive anyone can make money with any opportunity if they are committed, consistent, and see value in the products they market, the system they use to make sales and the compensation plan. None of this is get rich quick and you need to hone your skills in marketing and prospecting. All the best!
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Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 06:32 pm |
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| I have to agree with Kaizen that there is a lot of peace in no longer having to look for the right op (for me). I was a "jumping frog" because I knew nothing about network marketing; therefore, I didn't really know my own criteria for a company. Once I figured out just what I wanted in a company, I went back to the one I had left about a year earlier. It is all about what you are looking for. I did not see the value in my company until I tried some others. Sometimes, that is what it takes.
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Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 12:33 am |
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#1 Well back in my initial days of MLM's I used to believe that an inactive upline was reason to jump ship. As I've gotten older I no longer believe that. I now believe that if you have an inactive or unsupportive upline, just become that upline that you desired so much to those in your organization. Lead by example and just be a friend to them. As to what I believe today would be reason enough to jump ship, I would have to say if a company changes to something that is against your ethical code when they were something you believed in at the start.
#2 I believe in helping others to better their lives no matter which path that takes them on. I dont believe in helping others just to better yourself. But rather to just be a friend and help them along a path of their own choosing.
#3 I think the worst mistake most networkers make is leaving a company after only a month or two not seeing the results that they expected. Give an opportunity at least a full year and a serious attempt before re-evaluating your business decisions. I actually think that a year is too short a time but hey..... our society is quite impatient :-)
#4 I would count my blessings as being those who stuck with me, at least hopefully they stuck around because they enjoyed being with/around me. If they were "friends" then I would support their decision and let them know if they ever need a shoulder that I'm still around.
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Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 04:16 pm |
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I believe that the reason most people jump from company to company is because the hype associated with the new product or service makes the person feel like it will be an easier sell than the one that they are currently in...
The real problem however is that in most cases the person isnt succeeding because they have been told the same old MLM method to get going which is "make a list of your 50 people you know..." They are trying to sell via word of mouth and that takes too long for most people to see any real money so they cant sustain the effort needed to actually see results.
But, the person who signed them up probably doesnt know how to market either so its a neverending cycle. If the companies REALLY taught their reps how to market correctly so that they were consistently talking to interested prospects then there would be much less jumping.
So, I guess my opinion is the problem lies in the lack of good training at most of the companies. If people were making money they wouldnt jump.
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Posted: Sat Mar 8th, 2008 05:39 pm |
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Kaizen wrote: Great topic Michael. I know in my case what may be perceived as "jumping frog" was in retrospect a LONG search for the right company that fit all my criteria not only business-wise but mission-wise as well. It seemed every opp I joined and evaluated came up short on 1 or more of the "critical things list" I was looking for. Fortunately I didn't go full-on building any of them - just asked a few close friends there opinions, etc. I knew if I kept searching I'd find what I was looking for.
Just happy to have found the right opp for me. Lots of good ones out there - it's a personal thing. There's alot of peace in not having to look anymore.
Blessings...
I really agree with the above comments. In addition, I got tired of being in various new opps where only the top did well which is so often the case in many online business'. I was on the top with some, too, but having developed online relationships with friends I did not want to see them being stuck at the bottom.
I too am happy to have found the right opp for me. It truly is GREAT to know you do not have to continue to hop around for a few bucks here and there, and/or for something that goes out of business in a short period of time.
I saw one comment in this thread about longevity. I do not think a co. has to have been in business for 20-30 years, but if I were still looking I would want one in business at least 5-10 years.
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Posted: Fri Mar 21st, 2008 11:55 pm |
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Hello, I have to confess I have too been a program jumper in the past. I started out not doing enough research and not really knowing what I really needed in a company to be successful.
That probably is one major reason so many jump from one program to the next. The programs they choose are lacking things that are necessary for being successful.
I found companies that had great products but the missing link for me was lack of training in internet marketing and support. You can have the best product in the world but if you don't know how to drive people to your website you won't make sales.
Now I'm happy to say I have found that needed training and now I can send the people I bring in to get the same much needed training and support.
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Posted: Tue Mar 25th, 2008 08:21 pm |
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I have been in MLM for just over 1 yr now and I personally feel that any change that is made, good or bad, is a matter of choice.
In the world we live in, some people really believe they can get something for nothing. If you go to any offline presentations for many of the companies, many of the presenters make it sound sooooo easy, basically effortless to make money. With the aforementioned mindset, once the person learns that is not the case, they jump ship. But only to find out that it's the same basic premise at the next company and at the next company. So where the mindset is flawed, a problem with commitment arises.
In my company, there is no training on internet network marketing. However, I realized for myself that it technically is not soley up to the company to decide what works best for me, it's me. As a result, I sought out the proper info to help me succeed in my same company just using an alternative method.
I think that once someone comes into a "maturity" if you will with respect to their actual responsibility in running their own business, the jumping may slow down and more of an initiative will emerge. 
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Posted: Tue Apr 15th, 2008 08:10 am |
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When I consider the MLM industry, I cannot help but think about the thousands of networkers who switch from company to company every single day. While some retain their previous MLM businesses (which means they have 'portfolios' of at least three to five business opportunities each!), others have something bad to say about their former company, upline, compensation plan, products, and so forth.
The question is: Is This Good Or Bad?
Well, the answer is both. The rapid, restless movement of "MLM junkies" can be good or bad for you, depending on your vantage point. For example, if you're the upline and your frontlines are dissatisfied with you and your company, you will experience a tremendous amount of attrition. On the other hand, if you're a marketer who has penetrated deeply into the MLM / Work From Home market, or if you already have a massive rolodex of highly effetive networkers who already like you and trust you, then you won't have a problem with attrition at all.
In fact, attrition is almost always a sure thing to happen. You just can't stop it. The issue is how you handle it. If you build a good reputation, one of expertise and trustworthiness, people may leave your MLM company for their own reasons but they will NEVER quit seeking your advice. That means, you can still make money by helping them with information, offering them affiliate products and services, or striking joint ventures.
When the MLM company becomes the issue, stay generic, and loyal customers will hang around you more. Lead with expertise, not with your company credentials. When you do this, some of your loyal customers and team members will stick with you in whatever business venture you choose.
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Posted: Tue Apr 15th, 2008 03:37 pm |
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It's important to shoot straight from the very beginning. As you bring new partners in, be honest and be a straight shooter.
1. MLM/Network Marketing is hard work
2. Yes, you will need a marketing budget
3. Yes, you will need to sell something
4. Yes, you need on going personal develoment
5. No, you are not going to get rich overnight. 
6. The hard work is worth it.
BELIEVE Success!
Lisa Willard
http://www.network-marketing-success-tools.com
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BELIEVE Success!
Lisa Willard
http://www.network-marketing-success-tools.com
http://www.onlinecandleteam.com
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